| john10001 |
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| 08/10/2008 22:26 |
Re: UK Second Amendment
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I contest that the Bill of Rights 1689 is still very much legal and valid and it is not possible for it to be repealed in any way, and all subjects in the United Kingdom have the right to bear arms
This argument has been put forward many times before, and several shooting organisations have paid lawyers to look into the legality of it & concluded that its not workable. Yes, its still an unrepealed law, but that counts for nothing. There are many old obscure laws hanging around, did you know you can legally shoot a welshman with a crossbow within the city walls of London after dark ? Its still on the statute books, but try doing it & use the law in court.
The law is an ass, its very muddled. Rather than beating the government over the head with our rights, we need to win them around and get them to like us again.
Agree that the ancient "silly" laws you'd never be able to use nor would you want to, that is just common sense really. What I am talking about is the law and jurisdiction of this country of ours, this ancient kingdom. We are a common law jurisdiction. Common and Constitutional law are the true laws of the UK.
The law is an ass but it is only muddled if you make it so and don't realise your own rights and stand up for them.
I'm afraid there is no chance whatsoever of "winning around the government" as you put it and no matter which party is in power. The trouble is government has got too big and powerful in this country; they are abusing their powers and walking all over us the people. Its something they will continue to do. They like us very much because we are all suckers and take whatever is thrown at us. We still continue to pay them.
Many people are now starting to stand up for their rights and tell government just who has sovereignty and legitimacy. See The Public Defender website as well as the UK section of the Think Free forums for more info on your rights, its a good place to start. Standing up for and using your rights is the only way that people in this country will ever get through to them. Full recourse is ours in any eventuality.
I refuse to accept that we do not have the right to bear arms and defend ourselves; it is part of our constitution, The Magna Carta, Bill of Rights et al.
Now, anyone with any links to a UK equivalent of the NRA I'd really appreciate it, if of course there is such an organisation?
Regards,
John