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tundrik
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Rabbits
      #2346 - 14/01/2008 19:47

HI, I am wondering what sort of air rifle is best to hunt rabbits? I am a private land owner with a massive rabbit problem i have been told a 2 2 may do it. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good air rifle dosn't have to be really powerfull just able to kill rabbits.

Thank you

Tundrik


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belmontcj
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Re: Rabbits [Re: tundrik]
      #2348 - 15/01/2008 00:27

Any 12 ft/lb .22 is more than adequate for dealing with bunnies provided that the user is capable of pointing it in the correct direction!

The market is awash with suitable hardware from £80 in the Gammo break barrel range to the price of a small car in the pre charged market.

Personally I use a BSA XL Tactical in .22. A superb little break barrel with a synthetic stock and built in moderator. The high cheek piece allows for consistent gun mount and the stock is literally indestructible.

My optic of choice is a 3-9 x 50 Hawke scope which is ample for all types of air gun hunting (in my humble opinion).

Is this you’re first venture into shooting or just your first go at air rifles?

As an afterthought it is worth noting that shooting alone is unlikely to completely control the Coney menace. I shoot two farms and have a friend who ferrets the warrens. Even this two pronged assault struggles to keep the thriving populous under control!


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sandersj89
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Re: Rabbits [Re: belmontcj]
      #2353 - 15/01/2008 15:13

Agree with belmontcj, but will also add .177 will also work on the bunnies and can be easier to shoot at first as it has a nice flat trajectory. Head shots and the rabbits will drop with both .22 and .177.

If you need a hand controlling them I am sure there are plenty of people who would like to help, where about are you?

Jerry


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tundrik
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Re: Rabbits [Re: tundrik]
      #2355 - 15/01/2008 17:09

Thank you for the advice do you recommend any good sites that sell 2.2's or isit best to just find a good shop in person?

Tundrik


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sandersj89
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Re: Rabbits [Re: tundrik]
      #2356 - 15/01/2008 17:13

You cannot buy air guns on line now, a recent change last year I am afraid.

You can review the guns on line, at sites such as Blackpool Airguns who are very good.

But you will have to go to a shop to actually buy. I believe you can still buy over the phone but the rifle has to be delivered to a shop for you to recieve it, there is normally a small fee for that though.

If you can I would go and visit your local gun shops for the best deals, let me know where you are and I am sure I can recommend one not that far away.

Hope that helps

Jerry


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tundrik
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Re: Rabbits [Re: sandersj89]
      #2386 - 17/01/2008 10:28

Cheers I live in Derbyshire near Buxton hope that helps, I have been into one in Ashbourne but would like to find another.

Cheers Tundrik


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sandersj89
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Re: Rabbits [Re: tundrik]
      #2388 - 17/01/2008 12:39

Try:

Melbourne Tackle & Gun
Address: 64 Church Street, Melbourne, Derbyshire, DE73 8EJ
Telephone: 01363 772666
Weblink: www.melbournegun.com

They are pretty good by all accounts.

Jerry


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C3PO
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Re: Rabbits [Re: sandersj89]
      #2746 - 07/03/2008 01:24

Hi Tundrik,

Could I strongly recommend that whatever rifle you decide to buy, you get plenty of practice in before you go hunting. Headshots are the only real target area to ensure a clean kill and in particular the pellet should hit the spot midway between the eye and the base of the ear at the side of the rabbit's head. This will ensure the pellet strikes the brain and kills the rabbit cleanly. A badly placed shot will cause the animal undue suffering.

Ideally, you need to be able to hit a ten pence sized group nine times out of ten and when you can achieve that at a particular range that is your maximum hunting range. An experienced and responsible hunter will shoot at a maximum range of 40 yards with a 12ft/lb air rifle. You'll also need to understand the trajectory of the pellet at different distances because it follows an arc towards the target.

As for what calibre to go for, well that is a million-dollar-question. Recently there has been a great movement towards .177 as a hunting calibre because of its flatter trajectory and therefore greater predictability at the target. But some still swear that the "harder hitting" .22 is still the best for the job. To be honest, the jury remains out on this one and it is down to the individual preferences of the shooter.

I have no idea what budget you have for the gun, but assuming £500 I'd highly recommend the Air Arms S410 which is a Pre Charged Pneumatic rifle, very light, very accurate and highly reliable. I have taken many rabbits with this myself.

Good luck with the purchase and let us know how you get on

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timmyfishfinger13
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Re: Rabbits [Re: tundrik]
      #2749 - 07/03/2008 20:05

hi Tudrik, if you'd like a hand with your rabbits, please drop me a line, i'd be more than happy to help and even let you try my hunting outfits.
Regards Tim


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Insolentsquid
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Re: Rabbits [Re: timmyfishfinger13]
      #2757 - 09/03/2008 00:12

Tundrik,

Can I endorse what C3PO said.

Most air rifles on the market will despatch a rabbit provided (a) you get close enough, and (b) you point it in the right direction.

If you are a newcomer to shooting, practice. practice and practice until you can meet the standard suggested by C3PO, and then practice some more.

Body shots are a waste of time - yes, you will kill, but the rabbit will die in its burrow not on the field.

Head shots are however not without risk, as an inch - sorry, 25mm - off, will result in a pierced ear if you're lucky or a shattered jaw and a lingering death if not.

I won't get into the 'let's list my gear' bit - as a generalisation however - go for what they call PCP rifles if you can afford them - they work by compressed air from a reservoir filled either from a diver's tank or a glorified bicycle pump - either will set you back £100-150 and need to be factored into the cost.

The alternative is a spring gun - where cocking the rifle either by bending the barrel back on a pivot or with a lever under the barrel, compresses a spring, which when released, drives a piston forward which compresses air in a cylinder which in turn drives the pellet out the barrel.

(A third alternative is a CO2 powered rifle such as the Crosman which uses a 'sodastream sparklets' type CO2 cartridge - these can work out as expensive and their performance is quite sensitive to outside air temperature which raises a big question mark about consistency so rule them out for rabbits in the field, although I have one which did sterling service with rats in the back garden)

Having used both spring and PCP, (and CO2)- the difference is remarkable. The PCP is far easier to shoot well - especially for a beginner.

Two of the great bugbears to good shooting are a poor trigger and recoil - or the fear of it.

The trigger on a PCP is likely to be crisper and lighter since all it needs to do is trip a 'hammer' to release the valve that delivers air from the reservoir to the barrel.

The spring gun trigger needs (via a sear system of varying complexity) to hold back the power of a compressed mainspring which is a seriously beefy piece of metal - (anyone who in their foolish youth has tried to reassemble a spring gun stripped down in a flush of enthusiasm is likely to have come close to their first hernia by tryng to compress the spring to get it back into the sodding rifle).

As for recoil - Newton's law will tell you there isn't any with an air rifle - a pellet of 14-ish grains at 500-odd feet per second (and no - I'm not going to give metric equivalents) is not going to kick back the weight of even a slimline air rifle.

Newton however never had the dubious pleasure of firing a spring gun where tripping the trigger releases a mainspring and hefty piston forward at alarming speed only to come to the end of their travel, hopefully cushioned by the air they are compressing, only to rebound and then again move forward to the limit of their travel once the pellet has exited the barrel - all within six inches of your face with much slapping twanging and mechanical violence.

Even Newton would have flinched.

With a PCP rifle all you get is the noise of the valve being opened which is a loud click, and the sound of the shot which can be very successfully moderated.

As for calibre - I use a .22.

I have always used a .22.

There was a time when my fingers were precision tools of exquisite sensitivity.

Now however they are great lumbering things akin to sausages which feel the cold rather more than I would like to admit.

Have you ever picked up a .177 pellet in the cold?

No, I will put up with the tennis ball-like (ladies, rather than men's, singles) trajectory of the .22 for the benefits of ease of use, and the feeling that the bigger the hole the better where it comes to hunting.

As for scopes - well there's another ball game...

Go for the best you can afford (deerstalkers will tell you to spend more on your scope than you did on your rifle).

Don't worry too much about magnification, (the 3X..., 4X... bit in the description) but do pay attention to the objective size - the ...X30 ...X40, ...X50 bit

If you are likely to be shooting in low light - e.g. dusk/dawn, the bigger the objective size the better, as it will capture more light and allow you to keep shooting longer into the murk and will give you a clearer picture.

Good luck, good hunting, and remember..

...practice, practice, and more practice.


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Max_WW
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Re: Rabbits [Re: Insolentsquid]
      #2758 - 09/03/2008 12:05

I'm no expert where it comes to air rifles, but there are also rifles such as the Theoben Evolution which has a gas ram which I believe is a rough half-way house between a spring powered gun and a PCP. The key advantages are that you don't need repeated trips to a diving or shooting shop to refill the main cylinder, and you don't have the same mechanical noise or recoil of the springer.

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